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 Post subject: More fake news?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 5:38 pm 
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Was presented on the Internet with the following news concerning " Huge Comet will be visible ...here is how and when to see it. Next Thursday .Likely to be unaided eye. Etc etc"...and the Comet named as 168/P Hergenrother!!!
I believe that it has NOT been recovered since its return six years ago when it was seen to fragment into perhaps four pieces! Fake news perhaps! Pity. Regards maf


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 Post subject: Re: More fake news?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:54 pm 
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This

https://www.mirror.co.uk/science/huge-c ... k-18946949

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 Post subject: Re: More fake news?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 5:18 am 
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Yes, Skyhawk, that is indeed the piece.
The truth, from Seiichi Yoshida's page is "it has not been observed yet this apparition. Now it is fainter than 21.5 mag...was expected to be brighten to 12 mag...but actually must be much fainter..."
There really is so much junk upon the Internet.
As much closer to home, information posted thereon In the past is there for ever, even if correct at the start, is often pasted elsewhere, goes out of date and is in unremovable. For example, the Foredown Tower camera obscura where I continue to work, now as a volunteer, has, over the years had various and changing opening hours. Initially every day, then reduced, then closed, then reopened under a different arrangement using volunteers, and even then with changing opening times. One can still find out-of-date times listed on the Internet, and it is almost impossible to get some of them altered. People then turn up after we are closed and any volunteer still on the premises but locking up to leave, has to endure cross people who have often traveled some distance and they point to their tablet and say "no, it says on the Internet, you do not close until ...".
I know there is a difference between deliberate fake news and old information, but the result can be the same...frustration and anger and often disappointment. Regards maf
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 Post subject: Re: More fake news?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 1:19 pm 
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Mike,
I saw this also.

Looking at a general news page on the internet it seems that the Daily Star has the most end of the world items, several times a week.

Also the disaster movies on the T.V., especially the cheap channels are so ridiculous.

A few of these movies are nice to watch but most are just stupid.

What bothers me is that I need to keep my phone on.
Every day I get scam calls, some with dire warnings.
The voices are either real people or recorded or artificial.
It seems to me that this must be hostile state attempts, as the coverage in the U.K. and apparently worldwide is so large.

I use the internet, but really wish it had never been invented.

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David


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:18 pm 
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What do you expect from the Mirror?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:21 pm 
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Don't blame the Mirror, blame In-the-Sky.org :mrgreen:

https://in-the-sky.org/news.php?id=20190822_18_100

Seems so-called astronomers can get it wrong :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: More fake news?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:29 am 
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At least the in-the-sky page (which I had not seen) gives the predicted possible maximum magnitude as 11.5
which is not "bright" in my book and would not be of interest to the general public or even casual skywatchers or even me! Regards maf


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:59 am 
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It's not like you Mike to miss out on a comet.

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All the comets that I have seen have been pretty bright, no fainter than about magnitude 8, and any fainter would be beyond my equipment to see. Magnitude 11 would be hopelessly faint for me! There has been a dearth of binocular comets lately, this year only Comet Iwamoto C/2018Y1 which swam into my view 8 times between 9th & 15th February. I believe there is the possibly of a particular comet, perhaps becoming bright enough later in the year or start of the next.! That is Comet Panstarrs 2017 T2. But I will not hold my breath! Regards maf


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As we know, comets are unpredictable when it comes to sudden flare-ups. The comet might just fall into your ken.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:41 pm 
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Dear Mike,

Just noticed, Calsky are listing 'C/2018 W2 Africano' currently as 9.4mag, brightening to 7.3mag towards the end of September. Currently in Camelopardalis, in Pegasus at end of September.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:30 am 
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I read about this comet in the September Astronomy Now. It's moving South but has some close encounters with some bright stars which will act as good sign post's.

It will nice to see a reasonably bright comet from the dark skies of the Equinox Star Party.

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Comet 2018W2 (Africano) will be well-placed, running through Perseus, Andromeda , Pegasus and Pisces during September although the magnitude range suggested in seem to between 10.5 to about a magnitude of so brighter according to the article in Astronomy Now.. It suggests that it should be visible in a small telescope and may even be visible in 1Ox50. I will certainly look out for it.
The other comet mentioned in the article is Comet 2017T2 (PanSTARRS) which may be spectacularly second magnitude or as low as 9th at maximum.
Comets really are predictably unpredictable and so I shall have to just wait and see whether either get bright enough for me to observe.
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